This is Jocko podcast number 432 with echo Charles and me jocka willink good evening echo good evening

Talk of raids had been in the air in both groups all day

The Eagles had made had mentioned the possibility and indulged in bravado talk

but no plans were made. Simpson was pushing the idea in the Rattler group and as the possibility of their winning

faded during the day it became generally accepted. Mills, the leader,

stipulated that it should not be a night raid because the eagles had told them they were

cowards to raid at night while the eagles had come in broad daylight.

Martin said he would raid if the Rattlers won but not if they lost because that would be bad

sportsmanship. This same Martin entered into the raid that same day without question

after the Rattlers lost.

He was one of few boys actually engaged in a physical clash with two eagles and had to be

forcibly restrained from fighting.

That right there is a quote from an academic paper

called Intergroup Conflict and Cooperation, The Robbers Cave Experiment. And that academic paper was authored by Musif

O.J. Harvey B. Jack White, William R. Hood, and Carolyn W. Sheriffuriff, Sharif.

And I mentioned this experiment, you might remember it.

I do.

A few months ago on an underground podcast, Jocco Underground Ground.

com, and got a lot of feedback about it, got a lot of feedback about it got a lot of questions about it also and and there's a lot of people that have been now referring to the Eagles and the Rattlers kind of as a thing, right? It's become part of the nomenclature

that we use.

People talk about the Eagles and the Rattlers

and this group dynamic.

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