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I would go with some of the kids to Canada for a summer vacation and I hadn't had time to look at it.

And the next thing I know, I called back and I said, so we're not going to come, but would you maybe come here and watch the kids because Goodney's gonna run for president? And were they like, what? He's got to read the book then, though. That's like a challenge for him, right? Then you'll talk to him in 20 years. Yeah, yeah. There's an audio book. Does that count? Does he listen to books? I both listened and read. Oh, you did, yeah, but he does neither. He does neither. Fair. If you have some 30-second Instagram clips, if you can just clip the book up. Yeah, yeah, I hear you. And he can scroll. You know what? It's good to know your strengths and what you like and what you don't like, right? That's right. Well, he was so excited to meet you when he met you at GMA. He called me from the green room. I can't believe who I just met. Told me all about you. And then when Christine told me, you have a book that you were interested in me reading the book and having, and on here, I was so excited. Thank you so much. I'm very flattered.

Well, I'm really flattered to be here. This is really exciting. Well, I loved your book. Thank you very much. Even more thank you for that then. Yes, I'm one of those people, someone, another author was on this week. She was like, you really read it? And I thought, well, how do people talk about a book and not read it? I know.

It happens. Believe me. But it's always a little bit better when people have read it. Well, yeah. But, you know, as the author, you know, you said you enjoyed it. Thank you very much. I do feel every time I write a book, I feel a little bit like I've put on a bikini, which I will tell you, I don't wear often, slash ever. And, you know, I stand out there saying, okay, world, what do you think? Like, it's quite a, it's sort of a personal thing, whether that's fiction, nonfiction, whatever kind of book it is, that you somehow expose yourself in a different way. I could totally see that. I think it's similar with comedy. Once you get a comedy special and it's about to come out, you think it's great.

Yeah. All the people on your team think it's great. That's right. But, you know, the truth's in the pudding, right? And yeah, and inevitably, there are going to be people who don't think it's great,

and that's totally fine as well. You know, I think that's part of the process of just, I don't want to say creating art because

it sounds extremely fancy, but just doing something a little creative, kind of pushing your

own comfort zone. I think if I put on this bikini and standing there and someone is like,

oh, that's awful. I mean, I'll, you know, the sun's going to come up tomorrow. It'll all be

okay. Totally. But you've always done that,

haven't you? I, well, I mean, I sort of say that a lot of the book. There's a lot of those kind of

stories. I don't know that in the moment you always feel that way. But hopefully with retrospect,

I felt like I've tried to have perspective on mistakes I've made or opportunities that I've had that I try to make the most of.

I think even more than that, because you were adorable that you had a bridge club.

And let me tell you, when you were a child, you had a bridge club.

I did. Yeah. Well, I, so I, my grandparents taught me how to play bridge. And if anyone out there does not play bridge, I highly recommend it.

It's a great game.

But there's not a lot of grade school kids who play bridge.

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