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The New Evangelicals Podcast

432. Christian Anarchy and Gender. How to Create a More Beautiful World

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with Dr. Mae Forrest Barnes. She reveals how questioning hierarchy and coercive power can ignite transformative social change—fueling movements that build community from the ground up. Mae's Substack | Maeforrestbarnes.substack.com ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice.  If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, what's up, friends?

0:51.3

Welcome back to the show.

0:52.4

Today we're kicking off Pride Month. It's

0:55.9

going to be a great month. We have some great guests coming on, some of which you might already know.

1:00.3

Maybe you heard of other work, some you haven't. And I'm guessing you maybe have not heard

1:04.5

yet of our, of today's guest, Dr. May Burns, she is someone doing amazing work. She's also a Christian anarchist, and she connects

1:13.3

that to being trans. And this is a very thought-provoking conversation. I don't do a lot of talks

1:19.5

on this podcast about, you know, economics and like how we structure things. But I think that is a

1:25.1

huge part of understanding Christian nationalism and giving

1:28.4

people a better path forward by exposing them to different ways of organizing as a society. So this is a

1:33.8

great conversation. I think you're really going to like it. As always, friends, thank you so much

1:37.5

for being here. If you want to get plugged into our community, make sure to check out T&E Connect.

1:42.2

There are so many amazing things happening,

1:44.8

especially during Pride Month.

1:46.2

You can download it for free on the app store or on the Google Play Store,

1:49.7

or you can go to the new evangelicals.com slash connect

1:52.4

and access it right from any web browser that you can get your hands on.

1:55.9

So definitely check it out.

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