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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

432: Chicago's Apartment 131 Murders w/ Gregg Owen

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

History, True Crime, Education

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

On a chilly night in March of 1976, a father searching for his missing son made a horrifying discovery inside a Chicago apartment - in at what first appeared to be a drug deal gone bad. Inside were the bodies of Gio Messina and Delphine “Tinker” Moore, brutally stabbed to death. With no clear motive and a case that seemed ready to fall apart, it might have stayed buried if not for a series of unlikely breaks. My guest is author Gregg Owen, who, years later, found himself prosecuting that very case and was determined to see it through. His book "Convergence", co-authored with Jonathan Dixon, tells the story of how it all came together. The author's website: https://26thstreetbooks.com Free shipping and 365-day returns with Quince! Refresh your wardrobe here: https://www.quince.com/notorious Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to True Spies.

0:02.0

The podcast that takes you deep inside the greatest secret missions of all time.

0:08.0

Suddenly out of the dark that's appeared in Laubman.

0:10.0

You'll meet the people who live life undercover.

0:13.0

What do they know? What are their skills?

0:16.0

And what would you do in their position?

0:18.0

Vengeance felt good.

0:20.0

Seeing these people pay for what they'd done felt righteous.

0:24.6

True spies from Spyscape Studios, wherever you get your podcasts.

0:29.2

You know, Welcome all to another episode of the Most Notorious podcast.

1:00.1

I'm Eric Rivenis.

1:01.8

Well, my guest today, Greg Owen, has taken an unusual path into the courtroom before becoming a prosecutor.

1:10.3

He was a professional musician touring in rock

1:13.7

bands and later playing keyboards with the band The American Breed. And while in law school in Chicago,

1:21.1

he saw a notice for interviews with the Cook County State's Attorney's Office applied on a whim, and that decision

1:29.2

changed everything. He went on to become an assistant state's attorney, trying dozens of

1:35.4

felony jury trials, most of the murder cases, and also served as the first chief of the

1:41.5

gang prosecutions unit in Illinois during one of the most violent periods

1:46.4

in Chicago history. And today, we're going to talk about his book, Convergence, co-authored with

1:52.8

Jonathan Dixon, who tells the story of the apartment 131 murders in Chicago. Great to have you on

1:59.5

the show. Welcome. Well, thank you very much, Eric.

2:02.5

It's a pleasure to be here, and I'm looking forward to our conversation today. Yes, me too.

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