Welcome to this episode of the Patrick Coffin Show. We're going to talk about something that's in the news a lot,

and that is the legal side of the movement and what happens when people who stand up against this juggernaut of the tea of the

train, and I've been connecting with a lot of people in multiple countries that really tell a very similar story of how quickly the idea of tolerance and free speech and democratic clash of ideas and so on goes down in the real world.

Dr. Anne Gillies is a retired trauma specialist and therapist in Canada. She's an author. Her website is restoring

the mosaic.ca. We've done previous collaborations and she's been on the show as well and

she's really taken it on the chin on behalf of people suffering from gender dysphoria

and other maladies of the spirit, heart and mind. And welcome back. Thanks. I'm so glad to be

here again, Patrick. Good to see you.

Well, it's good to see you too.

You're like the ever-ready battery bunny.

You just, you know, I've been reading stories about you in the Canadian press,

and they seem to exalt in ad hominem attacks and trying to undermine you.

And you keep coming forward with the same message of healing and clarity and

truth you've you've spoken before the Canadian equivalent of congressional hearings in the

Canadian government provincial and federal tell me tell me why do you do this like where I know

you're a Christian and you make no bones about that how How has God led you to be in this, I guess Daniel's den of conflict and a constant opposition?

Well, it's a long story, but really it's twofold.

It's both my personal history and my professional experience.

So personal history, and maybe we've talked about this before, and it wasn't so much

the tch-eat issue that was part of my history, but certainly my first husband was same

to the s' attractive.

I actually were married and had many, many, he had many

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