fun and playful and he he ha ha ha ho ho ho ho ho ho i'm angela duckworth i'm stephen dubner and you're listening to no stupid questions

today on the show how do you find value in failure might not work might not be fun might lose a ton of money

but let's try it.

Also, what does teasing really accomplish?

He would run over to me and say, you're a green fungus, and then he would run away.

Stephen, we got an email recently that just took me back down memory link.

Can I read it to you?

Please do. Hi, Stephen and Angela. I i believe but please pack check i first heard you together on tell me something i don't know why did the show end

and what did stephen learn from the experience is it useful to know and to stop many thanks steve and

barry southwales oh thanks for that question, Steve.

So you're wrong.

Steve's wrong?

Yep.

Well, okay, I can't say that you're wrong because you say that you believe you first heard us together and tell me something on a note.

So that could be true, but that's not where we started working together, Angela.

So you were on our show for economics radio, I should say, twice. There was an

episode about boredom where you played a minorish role, and then we did a piece on grit,

where you played a very, very major role. And that is why I wanted you to be on,

tell me something I don't know, which was this live game show we created that was absurdly complicated because, A, it was live and it had a lot of moving parts.

In the first iteration, there was a three-person celebrity guest panel, and you were one of the three, and we changed it for every show.

A different guest panel, right.

And then there were five or six contestants every night as well, and then a live fact-checker,

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