43. John Ruhlin — Cut Through Noise, Increase Referrals, and Strengthen Retention
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
Michael Mogill
5.0 • 540 Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2021
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Imagine if you show up to your wife like, hey, honey, here's a diamond ring. |
| 0:05.1 | Now I better expect some special favors, you know, the next few nights. |
| 0:09.2 | Was that a gift? |
| 0:09.8 | No, it's a manipulation. |
| 0:11.4 | That's John Rulin, bestselling author of Giftology and world-renowned loyalty expert. |
| 0:16.6 | You don't earn brownie points for showing up on Valentine's Day. |
| 0:19.5 | You earn brownie points with a relationship showing up on random Tuesdays with a spa package. |
| 0:27.4 | I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp Video, the nation's number one law firm growth |
| 0:32.2 | company. |
| 0:32.9 | I've built my business through practice, not theory. |
| 0:35.6 | Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue |
| 0:39.4 | over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private |
| 0:43.7 | companies in America. |
| 0:45.0 | Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth |
| 0:48.4 | within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm |
| 0:52.5 | owners do the same for theirs. |
| 0:54.1 | In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry |
| 0:58.2 | and beyond. To learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, |
| 1:02.9 | and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with John Ruland to discuss the best |
| 1:08.2 | way to get referrals, why it's important to be thoughtful and strategic with radical generosity, and how the simple act of giving a gift can yield a higher |
| 1:15.9 | return than any form of marketing. So when people push back, they're like, what's the ROI? I'm like, |
| 1:20.8 | it's not R-O-I, it's R-O-R. It's return on relationship. That's coming up on the Game Changing |
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