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Welcome to The Restless Politics with me, Rory Stewart.

And me, Anastak Campbell.

So, we're now about to interview Arnold Schwarzenegger,

Governor of California, World Bodybuilding Champion, Hollywood Action Hero Star.

And I think it's just worth doing a little bit of an explainer to listeners about why we're doing it,

although that sounds a bit of a strange thing given that he's one of the most famous people in the world.

But I guess For The Restless Politics, the central part of the whole theme is that he was elected

as Governor of California in astonishing circumstances.

California had a recall election where the governor was toppled,

partway through his term. And there was a very, very short, few weeks campaign,

and Arnold Schwarzenegger put himself forward and won, took over, and then was reelected again.

And he did much better than anybody anticipated, and in particular was known for his environmental legislation.

He also went through the 2008 financial crisis, which did a lot of damage to the

California economy and left with quite low approval ratings.

But he is somebody who talks a lot about being consistently underestimated in life.

And this is a very, very confident man who in his latest book,

which is called Be Useful Seven Tools for Life,

talks about the fact that he was underestimated when he was a bodybuilder.

He was told that he had the wrong shape body, and as too many turned up in the States,

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