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The Lincoln Project

43: A Failure of Containment

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Host Reed Galen is joined by Dr. Charity Dean (CEO, Co-Founder, and Chairman of Public Health Company) to discuss how she was among the first to identify the true threat of COVID-19, the effect of the pandemic on American institutions, and how the leadership lessons of Winston Churchill can be used to effectively combat the novel pathogens of today. To learn more about Dr. Charity Dean, visit phc.health or read about her story in Michael Lewis’ new book, The Premonition.

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. Before we get started today, I just want to highly recommend to you, Michael Lewis's

0:04.0

most recent book, The Priminition. It is an easily digestible and understandable exposition

0:09.5

on how the United States responded to the COVID-19 pandemic. It has a cast of characters

0:15.2

of really incredible individuals like my guest today who had been working on public health issues

0:21.2

and pandemic issues for years and what happens when the systems we rely on fail. And now, here's the show.

0:37.1

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Rhee Gaelin. Today, I'm joined by Dr. Charity D,

0:43.3

the CEO, co-founder and chairman of the Public Health Company. Prior to founding the Public Health

0:48.8

Company, Dr. Dean served as the Associate Director for the California Department of Public Health,

0:54.0

Chief Public Health Officer for Santa Barbara County and was a key member of the executive team

0:58.8

directing the COVID-19 outbreak response in California. She was also profiled in Michael Lewis's

1:03.9

most recent book, The Priminition, which really I think guys does an incredible job of outlining

1:10.0

just how we got to where we are vis-a-vis the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Dean, thanks for joining me today.

1:16.4

It's my pleasure. Well, listen, I am very excited to have you on today because I listened to

1:22.2

the Priminition before I read it and I'm always a big fan of Michael Lewis and I think he doesn't

1:26.8

extremely able job as he always was of explaining complex things to people like me who need simple

1:33.5

answers. So you are obviously a medical doctor and you started in the book anyway as the Public

1:39.6

Health Officer for Santa Barbara County in California and talking about how serving in that role you

1:46.0

had a lot of responsibilities, not a hell of a lot of support, but also a lot of authority to do

1:52.9

the things you thought necessary in the context of public health. And what I was most fascinated by

1:58.7

and something you and I discussed a couple of weeks ago when we first talked was that there

2:02.4

isn't really such a thing as a public health system in America. There are however many counties,

2:08.8

there are ever many cities, there's obviously 50 states and territories, but talk to me a little bit

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