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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

429. The Psychology of Social Status and Class | Rob Henderson

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2024

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan Peterson speaks with best-selling author, Air Force veteran, and psychologist Rob Henderson. They discuss his recent memoir “Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family and Social Class” and go through Rob’s tumultuous upbringing within the California foster care system, the lived and observed transformations of social status and class as he ascended to Yale and Cambridge, how his thoughts on family structure and “luxury beliefs” developed, and why bookstores won’t host him for his tour. Rob Henderson grew up in foster homes in Los Angeles and in the rural town of Red Bluff, California. He enlisted in the U.S. Air Force at the age of seventeen. Following his enlistment, he attended Yale on the G.I. Bill and was subsequently awarded the Gates Cambridge Scholarship to study at the University of Cambridge, where he obtained a PhD in psychology in 2022. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal and Quillette, among other outlets, and his Substack newsletter is sent each week to more than 50,000 subscribers. This episode was recorded on February 25th, 2024 - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/ For Rob Henderson: “Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Troubled-Memoir-Foster-Family-Social/dp/1982168536 On X https://twitter.com/robkhenderson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Substack https://substack.com/@robkhenderson Newsletter https://www.robkhenderson.com/

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0:00.0

Hello everybody I'm talking today to Dr. Rob Henderson who's a novelist and a public intellectual, a psychologist,

0:24.0

and author of the recent book Troubled

0:27.8

a memoir of Foster Care Family and Social Class

0:31.4

which was released in February, and we really talk about not so much his book exactly

0:37.2

although also that but Rob's experience growing up in the foster care system in the United States in California and what and his

0:47.1

transformation sequential transformations of personality and status as he moved from the foster care system,

0:54.6

very fragmented and chaotic childhood upbringing, into the military and then to Yale and to Cambridge and so quite an upward arc on the academic and

1:07.2

intellectual side and we review his book the autobiography that's laid out in this book talking about his early experiences

1:15.2

and concentrating as well on his developing ideas of family fragmentation and the manner

1:22.3

in which that fragmentation has been aided and abetted by the same elites essentially that Rob studied with at Yale and perhaps to a lesser degree at Cambridge. And so he's the originator of the notion of luxury

1:36.4

beliefs, right? The idea that the elite classes who are yammering constantly about privilege, have as one of the privileges

1:47.1

they're unwilling to discuss, the privilege of adopting ideas that are very, very harmful to dispossessed people,

1:55.8

especially those who are economically dispossessed.

1:58.8

They have these ideas of unstable family structure, for example, that when implemented in the real world are absolutely catastrophic.

2:06.5

And so we talk about that, too. And so join us for that.

2:12.4

So I just re-read your book Troubled, a memoir of Foster Care, Family and Social Class last week and I found some topics that I'd really like to zero in on, but the first thing I'd like to know is how is, when exactly was your book published and how is it doing?

2:29.0

It was published February 20th, so as of this conversation just a few days ago.

2:35.0

I think it's doing well.

2:36.6

It seems to be well received.

2:39.0

A lot of my sub-stack subscribers are leaving positive feedback on Goodreads and on Amazon and it's been reviewed in various outlets and so far I've been really pleased with how things have developed. I hit some strange obstacles on the way.

2:57.0

Initially, my publisher and I thought we'd do some kind of a mini book tour, maybe visit some bookstores, do some book signings, and that ended up not going through,

3:07.0

which was really disappointing for me, but fortunately others have stepped into the breach

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