429. The Empathy Paradigm

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Politics

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages with Anna Clark Miller, a counselor and author of 'For God's Sake, Recovering from Religious Trauma,' shares her journey through high-control religion, the impact of spiritual abuse, and pathways to healing. Discover practical advice for navigating faith recovery, understanding empathy's role, and recognizing the influence of religious trauma on mental health. Learn more about Anna | Empathyparadigm.com Chapters 02:54 Understanding Spiritual Abuse 08:54 Navigating Trust and Community 12:03 The Role of Worship in Healing 18:02 Curiosity as a Tool for Recovery 21:07 Self-Compassion and Judgment 23:52 Conclusion and Resources ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to the New Evangelicals podcast.
0:20.2	Hey friends, what's up?
0:21.6	Welcome back to the podcast.
0:23.3	I am Tim Whitaker, the host of the New Evangelicals podcast.
0:26.0	On this episode, I interviewed Anna Clark Miller.
0:29.1	She is a counselor.
0:30.7	She wrote an amazing book, For God's sake, recovering from religious trauma.
0:34.6	Honestly, this conversation was so good, so unexpected, but so good. We talk about a lot of things, not even directly related to therapy, but just about the general ideology that goes to the high control religion, how we find it in ourselves, how we root it out, and how we hopefully heal and find better paths forward in our faith. I think you're really going to enjoy this. Anna is really wise, and I just had such a great time talking to her. As always, friends, don't forget about TNE Connect. It's our private community space. That's totally free to all of you. You can join by going online, the new evangelicals.com slash connect. Or you can download the app on iOS or on the Android store. It's a great, great, great space.
1:12.4	We have tons of resources, tons of classes,
1:14.4	and of course, that private community
1:16.1	that is just such a beautiful space.
1:17.5	So make sure to go check it out.
1:18.7	I hope you enjoy this conversation.
1:20.5	Talk to you all later on.
1:21.5	See you.
1:33.0	Well, Anna Clark Miller, it's so good to have you on the podcast.
1:35.3	Thank you for making time, especially last minute time.
1:36.3	I really appreciate it.
1:38.4	Yeah, thanks for having me.
1:39.3	Absolutely.
1:40.4	Tell me more about yourself. I mean, I can see here from your website, Empathy Paradigm, which we're going to dive into in a little bit here, that you wrote a book for God's sake, recovering from religious
1:47.7	trauma, great title, and that you're a licensed counselor, author, and trainer offering
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