I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I have pepper spray. Get away from me. Tim, that was not me. That was our guest today. And that makes me very happy that we're able to play that little preview of what the listeners are going to hear in this conversation. I do not have pepper spray on me, Tim. And if you were to come close to me, I would not use it on you. As you know, I would never do that. But before we get to all of this, it's coming fast and furious. How are

you? I'm doing well. Thanks a lot. Yeah, this is a fun conversation. And our guest, Damsel

Ninja Nancy, we met at CrimeCon just last month. If you want to check out what damsel

Ninja Nancy does, you can check out her website.

It is damsel ninja nancy.com.

And Lance, we have a great conversation with Nancy McAlla Abercrombie.

And it's really mostly about self-defense.

It's a really great opportunity to look at somebody's life.

As she says, she wanted to do something that was greater

than herself. And she was always a true crime consumer. A lot of people might remember her if they

went to crime con because you hear that stun gun that goes off and that's her. And she wanted to do

something that was bigger than herself. And she wanted to contribute to the true crime community.

And she's doing so by educating people on how to protect themselves, making sure that that was bigger than herself, and she wanted to contribute to the true crime community,

and she's doing so by educating people on how to protect themselves,

making sure that they're equipped with the right defense products that are going to be safe for them,

but effective if they need to use them.

So really cool conversation coming up.

And also, Tim, I wanted to make a correction.

You and I came into this thing thing like babes in the woods.

We were calling them tasers.

We were calling them stun guns.

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