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Okay, let's talk about transgenderism. Now, we're going to use some circle moccutions because

I don't want to get leader of the band. You know what I'm saying? So where we can, we'll speak as directly as possible,

but we also want to be prudent, innocent as doves and wise as serpent. So I want to introduce

Nancy Charles. A lot of you have seen her interviews elsewhere, talks that she's given. She was

in and out of the lesbian LGBT lifestyle, and that kind of morphed into gender confusion and full on transgender identity

with the full name change. I've watched her grow as a communicator and telling her own story,

which I'm sure is very difficult. And without further ado, Nancy Charles, welcome to the show.

Hi, Patrick. Thank you so much for having me on. It's a great honor. I always wonder where I should hit the rewind button with stories like yours.

Maybe a good place to start, just to get the more difficult things out of the way is family of origin.

We raised in a Christian home. Was there kind of trauma over time that led to this angling towards same-sex attraction?

Like, what was your,

what was your life like, say, under the age of 10? Yeah, so, I mean, we were raised in church.

Most people might know my brother, Joshua Charles. Him and I, when we share our stories about being younger, we have a much different experience, which is so interesting that two

people can be raised in the same home

and have a different experience. I think the biggest thing is I don't remember a lot of church

early on. We were raised Protestant though. Non-denominational, it felt like something just a chore

to have to do. But my relationship with church started to decay, I would say, rather early because I had been

exposed to things early on as a child, like sexual abuse, things like that. Nobody in our direct

immediate family, but people within the family. And then as you know, those things kind of progress

and they fester, especially if they're not brought to the light so that was definitely

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