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427: Finance Friday: Building a $200K/Year Portfolio on an “Average” Income

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets

Investing, Education, Business

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

A rental property portfolio can replace your job, give you ultimate financial freedom, and allow you to do what you want when you want. But building this massive passive income stream takes time, and if you stick with it, you’ll be rewarded plentifully like today’s guests, Jennifer and John. After starting with an “average” income, this couple was able to consistently buy cash-flowing rentals with the leftovers from their salaries. They compounded their cash flow to buy even more properties and now sit on around $8,000,000 in real estate. With so much wealth, you’d expect Jennifer and John to be the jet-skiing, vacation-home-buying, luxury car-racing types; but they’re FAR from it. John is still working at his W2 job as Jennifer continues to run her business. They both keep their spending low and live a moderate lifestyle. But, the lack of time freedom and heavy hours of a full-time job is eating away at John. This couple needs to know how they can use their real estate portfolio to retire early. To go through all the rates, rentals, construction costs, and cash-flow-number-crunching is investing expert James Dainard, who joins Scott on a resourceful episode for any real estate investor. James and Scott will review Jennifer and John’s entire portfolio, giving them suggestions on what to sell, keep, and buy instead. By the end of this episode, John and Jennifer have multiple options that could make them MILLIONS in just a few years’ time! In This Episode We Cover The “rate trap” that stops so many rental property investors from upgrading their portfolios Investing in real estate on an “average” income and why it’s possible for everyone Tapping into equity and the one metric that’ll tell you whether you should keep or sell your property Small multifamily vs. large multifamily and why bigger is usually better ADUs (accessory dwelling units) and how to make instant equity by building one And So Much More! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group BiggerPockets Forums Finance Review Guest Onboarding Find Investor-Friendly Lenders Join BiggerPockets for FREE Scott's Instagram Connect with James BiggerPockets Watch James on the “On The Market” YouTube Channel Listen to The “On The Market” Podcast: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, BiggerPockets Grab Scott’s Book, “Set for Life” Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Apply to Be a Guest on The Money Show Podcast Talent Search! Money Moment How To Build A Real Estate Portfolio ROE over ROI and Why Your “Cash Flow” Number is Deceiving Click here to check the full show notes: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-427 Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email us: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast, Finance Friday edition where we interview John and Jennifer and talk about how to optimize your portfolio with a high net worth and when you should leave your W2.

0:10.7

Hello, hello, hello. My name is Scott Trench and with me today is James Danard from our sister podcast on the market.

0:16.6

James and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just for somebody else to introduce you to every money story because we truly believe financial freedom is attainable for everyone, no matter when or where you're starting.

0:27.4

Whether you want to retire early and travel the world, go and make big time investments in assets like real estate or start your own business will help you reach your financial goals and get the money out of the way so you can launch yourself towards your dreams.

0:40.1

The contents of this podcast are informational nature and are not legal or tax advice and neither James nor I nor bigger pockets is engaged in the provision of legal tax or any other advice.

0:49.4

You should seek your own advice from professional advisors, including lawyers and accountants regarding the legal tax and financial implications of any financial decisions you contemplate.

0:57.8

James, this was an awesome episode today. I want to give everybody a fair shake that this is a little bit more advanced. This is a significantly high net worth couple.

1:08.2

They didn't get there by being particularly fancy. They never earned particularly high incomes until maybe the last year or two, but they've accumulated millions of dollars and we're going to talk about.

1:18.1

The allocation of a portfolio that is well underway and you know some high level choices about how we're going to you know potentially think about shifting those assets perhaps to commercial real estate and that involves discussion around.

1:29.4

We're going to throw out terms like 1031 exchanges we're going to throw out terms like cap rates we're going to talk about net operating income and that jargon I think anybody and everybody can learn from this but there may be a couple of terms that we throw out there and those are sprinkled in and.

1:45.1

Available for you to self educate on throughout the bigger pockets platform to go look at those up. I hope you like it and look forward to feedback.

1:51.7

Oh and by the way listen to the very end because we present I think three very different choices to John and Jennifer for them and they'll have to kind of figure out what the right approach is for them based on the wide array of really good options that they have.

2:05.0

Alright we have a new segment of the show called the money moment where we share a money hack tip or trick to help you on your financial journey today's money moment is.

2:12.6

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2:26.4

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2:29.7

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3:19.8

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3:37.7

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3:49.2

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3:59.8

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4:09.6

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