Hi, everybody. This is Joe Lampel, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner Show.

Today's guest is someone whose work has not only influenced the world of permaculture,

but is now inspiring millions through the power of storytelling and restoration.

Andrew Millison is a veteran permaculture designer, educator, and founder of the popular YouTube channel that showcases

some of the most compelling examples of ecological design around the world. He teaches at Oregon

State University and has helped bring permaculture into the mainstream through both academic

and on-the-ground global work. But what brings us here today is something extraordinary.

Andrew's recent series of videos from refugee camps in Africa. These aren't just hopeful stories. They are proof that with

the right knowledge and a bit of will, even some of the harshest environments can be transformed.

His videos have reached millions of viewers, and for good reason, refugees in Africa,

often seen only through the lens of crisis, are leading the way in regenerating land,

capturing water and producing food, turning bare earth into thriving ecosystems.

Today, we're going to hear directly from Andrew about what he saw, how those communities are doing it, and what it means for the rest of us who care about restoring land and building resilience, whether that's in a backyard garden or across an entire landscape.

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