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Where Politics Meets History

425. That's a Hard One

Where Politics Meets History

Global

News, History, Politics

4.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Iain and Jacqui talk the Rwanda Bill, Harry hacking, Mark Drakeford, a two-state solution, the heroism of David Davis and loads more besides! Smut quota: Fair to Middling.

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0:00.0

This is a Global Player Original podcast.

0:15.0

So, Ian, happy Friday afternoon, which is when we're recording this week's For the Many.

0:21.0

I've just looked at my list and said, Rwanda Bill, I've sort of slightly already forgotten what happened there.

0:28.9

Is that because it was a massively overstated potential defeat for the government, which in fact, as we thought, they managed to avoid.

0:43.2

No, I think it's because you're getting old.

0:46.4

And it's Christmas and I've got lots of things.

0:48.6

I'm a woman, therefore I have lots of responsibilities in the run after Christmas.

0:53.0

Unlike you, who when I said to you this

0:54.8

morning, are you ready for Christmas? You went, no, not really. The key question being, is John

1:00.8

ready for your Christmas? Well, that is the key question and the answer is no, because we're

1:07.0

having a simple Christmas this year. We're staying in Kent and we've got our friend

1:12.9

Jenny and Dan and his family coming around on Christmas Day, but that won't be till later on.

1:17.9

We haven't got any Christmas decorations up or anything or the tree. So I have tried to get myself

1:24.7

into the Christmas spirit though because when I've been working this week, I've been using my Christmas playlist on my phone.

1:32.3

And I've just put it on random shuffle.

1:35.9

And there's quite a lot of songs on it, which I think, well, why are they on that playlist?

1:39.5

They're not even Christmas-y.

1:40.6

But I think it's because they're on a Christmas-related album.

1:45.8

So I've got one,

1:51.4

have you heard of a South African group called Sounds of Blackness? No. Well, they did a,

1:57.2

they had one hit in the 1990s and they did a Christmas album. But shall we say South African Christmas doesn't necessarily equate to British Christmas, I don't think, because

2:01.6

the songs didn't sound very Christmasy to me. But there we go. Well, I've got, um, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't want to

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