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425: Selective Accountability w/ Chenjerai Kumanyika

Pod Save the People

Pod Save the People

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.78.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

A federal appeals court revives a lawsuit against DeRay McKesson, prompting warnings that the decision could threaten First Amendment protections. In Los Angeles, a former police commander wins a $5.7 million judgment after alleging she was held to a different standard than her male colleagues. And in culture, Telfar announces it will donate 100% of net profits to global liberation efforts. DeRay interviews researcher and journalist Chenjerai Kumanyika about his podcast Empire City: The Untold Origin Story of the NYPD.

Judge warns revival of lawsuit against Black Lives Matter organizer 'imperils' First Amendment

LAPD commander fired over drunken incident wins $5.7 million lawsuit

Did Telfar just begin the revolution? And by a Black Muslim woman at that.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Dorey. And welcome to POSTIA of the People. In this episode, it's me, Miles, and

0:07.3

Shuranda here to talk about all the news with regard to race, justice, and equity from the past week.

0:11.3

And then I sat down with researcher, journalist, organizer, Chindraig Kumanika. We talk about

0:15.9

the power of storytelling, how history is constructed, and what it means to challenge dominant

0:19.8

narratives in a moment like

0:20.8

this. And I've been important POTS of the People update to share with you. Now, I've been

0:24.6

hosting and producing POTS of the People for nearly 10 years. It's been a long time. And I'm so

0:30.3

grateful that you have listened week after week. And this show has been just a career highlight of

0:35.8

mine. And I'm so proud that I've met a ton of people and I've learned so much. And for the first time since the very first episode, I'm taking a break. I'm going on sabbatical. This means that after March 24th, we won't publish new episodes for a bit. I just need a break. It's been like nonstop since that very first episode, which was a

0:54.9

great episode. We've had a really cool run, but I just need a moment to like step back and reflect

1:00.0

and think about the new version of I see people and just like take a breather. But in the meantime,

1:05.3

revisit some of our previous episode, y'all, and it's been cool to have so many amazing co-hosts

1:09.9

and guests over the years who have poured a part of themselves into this podcast, whether it was through their storytelling, sharing resources, giving us the game that we needed to bring the change that we want to see in ourselves.

1:21.8

So big thanks to the crew, Sharonda Basie, Mowsey, Johnson, our producer, A.J AJ Moultrie, and to the team at Crooked Media,

1:28.2

including John, John, Tommy, and every editor, engineer,

1:31.4

and Moore who has touched this show in some way.

1:33.5

Thank you for being part of this journey.

1:35.2

Follow us on Instagram for episode recaps

1:37.0

and show announcements at Posit of the People,

1:39.1

and I will see you soon.

1:41.3

Here we go.

1:51.9

We're gearing up for the midterms, literally, with merch from the Cricket store that does the yelling for you. Grab a due process freak tea and get ready to

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