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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

425. Season 6 Finale: The Non-Negotiables of Elite Brands and People

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The difference between those who scale and those who stall isn't talent. It's the willingness to act when every instinct says quit. In the Season 6 finale of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill revisits the most powerful conversations from 2025. From David Kolbe's insights on understanding your instinctive strengths to James Amaro's blueprint for building accountability culture, James Lawrence's discipline in mastering discomfort, Verne Harnish's framework for scaling past plateaus, and Kat Cole's philosophy of relentless self-improvement, this episode distills the season’s most actionable wisdom into one comprehensive guide for growth. Here's what you'll learn: Why understanding your conative strengths can prevent years of burnout and misalignment in your career and your team How deliberate discomfort and daily disciplines train your mind to refuse quitting when adversity hits What it takes to build an accountability culture that drives KPIs without sacrificing team morale or losing top talent The leaders who dominate 2026 will be the ones who stopped waiting and started executing on what they already know they should be doing. ---- 3:04 — David Kolbe explains the four action modes and how understanding your conative strengths changes everything 9:57 — Why your Kolbe result doesn't change over time and what that means for your career 13:16 — James Amaro shares how he rebuilt his firm from 6 people to over 80 after losing almost everything 17:07 — The accountability culture that took profit from 5% to 34% 23:24 — Triathlete James Lawrence reveals his genetic testing results 28:17 — Mental toughness requires doing activities you hate 36:32 — Verne Harnish on why ambitious goals drive energy while attainable goals kill it 42:09 — Founder Mode: why you can delegate everything except the soul of your business 52:18 — Kat Cole's journey from Hooters hostess to leading billion-dollar brands 56:44 — “The Hotshot Rule” for relentless improvement ---- Links & Resources: Kolbe Assessment  Amaro Law Firm  James Lawrence (Iron Cowboy)  Iron Hope  Verne Harnish  Scaling Up  AG1 ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at https://crisp.co/coach ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 423: How to Actually Scale Your Standards Episode 404: The Dangers of Premature Growth with Eric Siu Episode 365: Discipline Is a Daily Decision

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I learned very early on that more and better is always possible.

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I also learned in a way I'm so grateful for to not use that to feel beaten down or small.

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Welcome to the season 6 finale of the Game Changing and Trinity podcast.

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Today, we're looking back at some of our most memorable

0:21.9

conversations 2025 had to offer so you and your firm have an edge heading into 2026. If better is always

0:28.5

possible, then if you ask, well, what's required? For that, better, by definition, is different. And so

0:34.7

if different is required, what is one thing I could do differently to be better tomorrow I'm Michael Logel founder and CEO of

0:49.3

Crisp the nation's number one law from growth company I've built my business through

0:53.1

practice not theory Chris started which is five hundred dollars to my name and has grown to over eight figures in

0:58.6

revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing

1:03.0

private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about

1:06.8

generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious

1:11.0

and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down

1:15.6

with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive

1:20.2

in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

1:24.5

game changer. On this episode, we're looking back to some of our most iconic guests and the most insightful

1:29.7

moments from season six of the podcast.

1:31.9

From discovering how your team is really wired to scaling and leading billion-dollar organizations

1:36.0

this episode has it all.

1:38.2

You don't need any special gift or ability or strength to stand out and break through and

1:42.9

become one of eight billion people.

1:44.8

You just have to be willing to show up and do that work.

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