You're listening to The Heart and Hustle Podcast. We are your hosts, Evie McLeod and Lindsay Roman.

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It's quite life-changing. All right. Now, today's episode is an incredible one. Y'all, this is for every single human being on the planet.

Yep. Well, probably mostly the business owners, but I would still say, if you're even interested in business, listen.

Yes, absolutely. So today we had the incredible John Falcons on the show. Now, John Falcons, if you've

never heard of him, has been with Ramsey Solutions for 12 years and is currently the executive director

of Entra Leadership Elite, Dave Ramsey's Leadership Coaching Program for business owners. John brings expert advice and leadership insight to help thousands of leaders grow personally,

lead their teams effectively, and scale their businesses the right way.

In addition to leading intra leadership's team of business coaches,

John is a frequent speaker at prestigious business conferences,

including the Entra Leadership Master Series and Entra Leadership Summit.

He's incredible. He's our new bestie. This episode was so much fun to talk with him.

He just breaks down these concepts so easily. So here, Evie, you want to go into kind of what

we talked about with him? So I don't want to give too many spoilers, but John basically

breaks down today the five stages of business, what that looks like for pretty much every business

owner. And most likely, not to give too much away, most likely, most of our listeners, including

maybe even us, are in the first one to three stages of business. That's the most common. But how do we get

further? How do we get from stage one to stage two? How do we get from stage two to stage three? And I don't

want to give too much away about what each of those stages is and what the pitfalls are. But John breaks it

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