423: Elena Pantaleoni Remembers When Making Natural Wine Felt Lonely

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🗓️ 17 June 2017

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Elena Pantaleoni is the proprietor of the La Stoppa winery in Italy's Emilia.

Elena Pantaleoni was pulling out international grape varieties from her vineyard in the mid-1990s, just when the acclaim for such wines was highest. And she embraced a Natural wine approach long before it became fashionable in the market. Why did she make those moves? Elena discusses in this interview the decision making that has set her apart from the pack in the Emilia and in Italy. In the end, she says, she didn't want to copy someone else from someplace else.

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0:00.0	I'll drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the beverage business.
0:05.1	I'm Levy Dalton.
0:06.1	I'm Erin Scala and here's our show today. Eleanor. Eleanor Pantoleoni of Lestopa and Emilia on the show hello how are you?
0:28.1	Very nice to be here thank you. You own Lestopa which is a property that your father purchased, but the history of that property goes quite back away and that the gentleman, Geno, put it together in the 19th century.
0:41.0	Yes, my parents bought the estate in 1973.
0:45.0	I joined the estate in 1991,
0:48.0	but the beginning of Lestopa
0:51.0	goes back to the end of 19th century. So Jan Carlo
0:57.0	was the founder of the estate, he was a lawyer from Genova and as much as we know he was very passionate and fond of agriculture
1:07.8	so it was his choice to go there he put together the estate and he started to make wine. He lived until
1:16.6	1947 and we were in touch with a nephew so we we could read some things that he wrote and so he wrote all the things he was doing making the wine and at that time making long-aging wine, it was really rare.
1:36.0	And maybe because he was from Genova,
1:38.8	he had some relations with France,
1:41.2	because he planted many French varieties.
1:44.1	So when my father bought the estate,
1:47.0	and he was a printer, my grandfather was a printer too,
1:50.9	at the beginning he didn't know what to do with all those different grapes.
1:54.8	So there were many like Pinonoir, Cabernet, Sovingo, Carminor, Merle, and all white varieties such as Marsan,
2:05.0	sovignon, toky, pinogry, and then some bracete to two and some muscate
2:09.8	two. Very few barbera, croatina and Malvazia, mainly those international varieties.
2:18.0	So not the varieties that are often grown in that area today but more of the French varieties.
2:23.2	Yeah.
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