422: [Formed.] The Hard Truth About Maturity: Fr. Ronald Rolheiser on Dismantling Self-Sufficiency and Embracing Struggle
Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness
Christopher Cook
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🗓️ 9 January 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Are you stuck in frustration, wondering why growth feels so hard? This week, Fr. Ronald Rolheiser joins us to uncover the hard truth about maturity: it often leads us into the wilderness. But here's the good news—those wilderness seasons can purify your faith, dismantle harmful self-sufficiency, and transform your emotional and spiritual health.
In this episode, we'll discuss:
- Why maturity requires us to let go of control.
- How mystery becomes our greatest ally in navigating life's challenges.
- The role of disillusionment in spiritual growth.
- What bitterness does to our emotional and spiritual health—and how to break free.
- Fr. Rolheiser's reflections on life, faith, and wisdom from nearly 80 years of experience.
This conversation will inspire and equip you with the tools to embrace your wilderness season and experience breakthrough in your faith journey.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.0 | Faith requires us to enter into mystery. |
| 0:06.0 | Mystery is your great friend. |
| 0:08.0 | Mystery is your great friend. |
| 0:09.0 | It's not your enemy. |
| 0:10.0 | I have a theologian friend who says this. |
| 0:12.0 | He says, God, as I understand him, is not very well understood. |
| 0:22.6 | Helping you design your roadmap to wholeness from the inside out. |
| 0:27.6 | This is Win Today. |
| 0:30.6 | And now, here's your host, Christopher Cook. |
| 0:34.9 | Hey, friends, welcome to the podcast. |
| 0:37.2 | It's episode 422, and it's week two of our annual |
| 0:41.1 | spiritual formation series. Formed. Listen, if you missed last week, I taught on why bitterness and |
| 0:46.7 | cynicism and the issues of the heart will blind us from our ability to see, to perceive, |
| 0:51.9 | and to walk in the new thing God wants to do in us. |
| 0:54.3 | Go back, listen, episode 421, week one of formed. |
| 0:58.1 | But this week, one of my heroes is back, and that's Father Ronald Ruhleheiser. |
| 1:03.1 | We're taking the deep dive into why maturity leads us into the wilderness and how the |
| 1:08.2 | experience itself dismantles our hold on self-sufficiency. |
| 1:13.1 | We're also going to glean from his view on life from almost 80 years old, and that part |
| 1:17.1 | of the conversation is really fascinating because I've been on this journey lately of |
| 1:21.6 | desiring to ask better questions because I don't know what I don't know. |
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