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Hey friends, what's up? Welcome back to the new evangelicals podcast. I am Tim Whitaker. This

conversation is powerful, man. There's no other way for me to to kind of tease it. Lisa Sharon Harper is a friend. She's been on the show before. It's been a little while. This conversation is, man, like what she has to say, especially about the

war on black women that you probably have not heard about under this administration. It shocked

me when she talked about it, and it's really important that you hear it. This is a, this is a,

it's, this is a key episode. If you want to learn how to do the work and how to be part of the change,

you have to listen to this. Lisa has the history. She knows her stuff. She's written books on this

before. She's an amazing human being. Does fantastic work. I think you're really going to love it.

So make sure you listen closely because she is the best. All right, friends, check out this episode.

I'll talk to all later on. See you.

Maybe this is a good, a good intro to our conversation, which, by the way, at least

has Sharon Harper. It's good to have you on the show again. You know, don't worry, the beginning of the stuff will trim out.

But this is actually, I think, a good intro because I think a lot of people assume that content creation, writing, you know, going live.

Well, it certainly is a privilege to do a lot of this work full time, especially in today's gig economy, it is a grind on social.

It's a grind.

You're always, I feel like sometimes I am being milked like a cow for content, frankly.

I hate to put it that grassley.

But I'm like, I just have to always put stuff out to kind of keep people engaged, you know?

And I'm wondering how you feel about it too. You really are. Like, you're always putting something. Like you have, you have a way. In fact, I've asked you, you know, I've asked you if you know, how do you do it? Like, how are you doing this? And you literally tried to give me a little tutorial and I have to say it went in one ear and not the other.

Because there was so much.

Oh, my gosh. Honestly, that's one of the reasons why I do like subsec. And this is not, I mean, it's meant to be a plug for subsec. But subsec helps because, you know, when you put all that time into a really good conversation, they also put their resources into

cutting it up for you. So I don't have to have the videographers who are, you know, putting all the

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