Hello, hello there, good listener. I'm your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to the

Pure Desire podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from

betrayal and breaking free from compulsive sexual behaviors. Today is episode 421 and here joining me as my co-host for most

of this series is Mr. John Beggeman. Welcome back, John. Good to see you again. Thanks so much.

This was such a fun conversation. I'm, I learned a lot. I'm like, okay. Yeah. There's so much more.

Yes, we are nearing the end of our Foundations of Freedom series. This is part five of six. Those that have been listening for all of them know that for part two, I had Mike Maxwell as a co-host. And then in the magic world that is production and the timing of when we record, we lost him due to some sickness and voice issues. So John jumped in. Hold on. He's alive. Yeah. We lost him as a host. Good point. All these people writing it like, we didn't even hear. Yeah. Sorry, Mike, we love you. But yeah, his voice was not up for recording these episodes.

Yeah, John said he's in.

And I'm so glad we got to have today's conversation because the fifth foundation of freedom is all about the battlefield for the mind. What can listeners expect to take out of this great conversation we had today with Heather Colb?

Well, I think Heather always brings such

a level of expertise to this with her background as a professor in criminology and just her

wealth of wisdom. But today I was really encouraged by her own vulnerability. So if you guys have heard

maybe things about the brain before from Heather, I would just say, stay tuned.

There is more. And Heather's own story, I think, shapes so much of how she's learned about this and why she cares about this and the gift that she gets to be to so many people. Yeah, she's passionate about it because she's lived it. And then she's also learned a lot about it. You know, we've joked that she's a bit of a smarty pants. So if some of you listening are not big, you know, science nerds or the brain science, you start to gloss over a little bit and you hear Heather use a word like amygdala and you're like, oh my goodness, don't worry. There's just a little bit of science, but a whole lot of understanding. And she makes it very practical and relatable.

And I know you're going to get a ton out of this because it really is about the battlefield of the mind.

So a bit more about Heather, for those that may be new to her.

She is our associate director of product development and also a neuroscience professional for Pure Desire Ministries.

She has a bachelor's in psychology and a master's in criminal behavior and is a certified pastoral sex addiction professional.

She has been trained in the multi-dimensional partner trauma model through APsats and worked

several years as a college professor prior to joining the Pure Desire team.

She is a speaker and

contributing author to several resources, including digital natives, raising an online generation,

and unraveled, managing love, sex, and relationships. And here now is part five of six on our

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