Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast.

I'm your host, Catholic Answers Apologist and Speaker, Trent Horn.

The title of this episode, a little click, baby, but I'm okay with that.

The Apologist, I fear the most.

Who is the Apologist that I fear the most?

The critic that I don't want to go up against.

The answer, it's me.

Me, I hate to say it, but I have a friend who's going to help us rebut me.

His name is David Bates.

He is the host of Pints with Jack, a wonderful podcast on CS Lewis.

And so today, we're going to talk about my fiercest critic

and we're going to do a live table read for you.

So David, welcome back to the podcast.

It's wonderful to be back again.

I couldn't help but think when you said that you were going to try and rebut yourself.

I thought of that scene in the office where Dwight fights his greatest enemy,

the only person who could possibly beat him himself.

It almost drives him over the edge.

He cannot handle that.

And so for me, and I am serious, there are critics out there who are formidable,

who advance good arguments, but for me as an Apologist, and what I try to do,

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