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🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Dr. Nicole Cain is a leading expert in trauma-informed Clinical Psychology and holistic medicine for anxiety and panic, and author of the acclaimed book Panic Proof. She joins the show to unpack the 9 types of anxiety and what your body is really trying to tell you. We explore how anxiety is more than a mental health issue; it’s often a message from your hormones, gut, immune system, or even unprocessed trauma. Dr. Cain breaks down the different types—from hormone and gut-driven anxiety to trauma, anger, and depressive anxiety—and how each has a unique root cause. We also get into the connection between autoimmune conditions and ACE scores, the truth about anxiety medications and dependency, and how to stop being gaslit by a system that overlooks the body’s role in anxiety. Plus, Dr. Cain shares her 3-step process to interrupt the anxiety cycle, how to regulate inbound stress, and simple ways to stimulate your vagus nerve to return to calm.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a dear media production. |
| 0:05.8 | This is Well, a podcast about wellness in all its forms. |
| 0:10.0 | I'm Ariel Laurie, and each week I'm sharing unfiltered conversations with people shaping how we feel, live, and look. |
| 0:17.2 | Come for the substance, stay for the honesty, and leave with the tools to be well, inside and out. |
| 0:25.4 | Welcome to the show. |
| 0:28.5 | Today's episode is truly fascinating, wherever you lie on the anxiety spectrum. |
| 0:34.7 | So I think that everybody has experienced some sort of anxiety at some point in their |
| 0:41.2 | life, some people more than others, some people chronically, some people suffer more from |
| 0:46.6 | panic. But it is a universal experience. And my guest today, Dr. Nicole Kane, is a leading |
| 0:54.0 | expert in trauma-informed clinical psychology |
| 0:57.5 | and holistic medicine for anxiety and panic. So she has a really interesting perspective on it. |
| 1:05.6 | She basically theorizes that there are nine types of anxiety and they all derive from your body. Essentially, |
| 1:13.2 | your body is trying to tell you something. So we explore how anxiety is more than just a brain |
| 1:19.2 | chemistry mental health issue. This is something that I get into with her because I feel like, |
| 1:25.3 | although I am no medical expert, some people do seem to be more |
| 1:29.2 | predisposed to things like anxiety because their brain chemistry or their wiring is just different. |
| 1:36.0 | But she argues that this is still something that derives from the body, whether it is trauma |
| 1:41.9 | that's been passed down from generations. You'll hear more in the episode. |
| 1:46.1 | So we talk about how hormones gut, the immune system, and like I said, trauma come into play. |
| 1:52.2 | We break down the different types of anxiety. |
| 1:55.2 | We also get into the connection between autoimmune conditions, ACE scores, so adverse childhood events, the truth about |
| 2:02.7 | anxiety medications, dependency. We talk about being gass lit by a system that tends to overlook the |
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