Hi, everybody. This is Joe Lampel, the Joe behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner show.

Today, I'm chatting with Brenna Estrada, an accomplished flower farmer, a lifetime grower, teacher, and all-around plant enthusiast.

Her work in flower farming both at Flaret flower farm and her own farm, Three Brothers Blooms, has inspired so many people to get their

hands in the soil. Her new book, Pansies, might surprise you. Yes, it's entirely about that little

flower so many of us pass by at the garden center. But Brenna, thankfully, invites us to take a

closer look. In her hands, Pansies aren't just bedding plants. They're full

of history, meaning, and resilience. This conversation is a celebration and rediscovery of the

overlooked and the everyday, and a reminder that even the most familiar flowers can still

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