42: The Fall of the Republic(ans) with Norm Ornstein

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🗓️ 28 February 2024

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Summary

Jen welcomes political scientist Norm Ornstein to explore the rise of radicalism in the Republican party and how to defeat it. They discuss how reasonable governance ended with the Gingrich Revolution, why this election must be about saving democracy, and what will happen to our freedoms, particularly for women and the LGBT community, if Trump wins again. Then they lay out the strategies that will stop him, covering the reform of the filibuster to limit the power of a radical minority, the rule of 3 that governs how a party changes course, and stopping a coup in a worst case scenario.

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0:00.0	Hey, this is Jen Rubin and this is Jen Rubin's Green Room.
0:09.0	A lot going on this week.
0:11.0	It's Tuesday and the House and Senate leadership met at the White House to talk about
0:17.0	the shutdown that is looming once again, and also to talk about the border.
0:22.7	Now, the way it was described by the House Minority Leader and the House Majority Leader,
0:29.9	both Democrats, was very intense, very productive. In other words, they put the screws on
0:37.2	Mike Johnson. What are you doing? Are you going
0:40.2	to have a shutdown? Are you really going to sink Ukraine because Donald Trump told you to?
0:45.7	You can just imagine the strong-armed thing that went on in that meeting. So perhaps Biden is more
0:52.6	active, more effective, tougher than Republicans would have you believe.
0:57.6	Well, we'll see what happens, and if we really do have a shutdown, I suspect we won't,
1:02.0	because it is such bad politics, even for Republicans. Meanwhile, there are further signs that
1:09.2	Biden is pretty effective.
1:11.7	This week, Sweden officially got voted into NATO.
1:15.9	We have added two countries to NATO.
1:18.7	This is the organization, of course, that Donald Trump would destroy and has invited Putin to attack.
1:24.8	But Biden has expanded it as he has taken the threat from Putin more seriously
1:31.9	than his predecessor and even perhaps than two presidents before him, because recall that Putin
1:38.8	invaded Georgia and Crimea in the two previous administrations. So Biden, once again, being tough. He's now also
1:48.1	on the offense of two issues that used to be a sore point with Democrats. First is on crime.
1:54.9	On Wednesday, when you will be viewing this, he's inviting a slew of big city police chiefs to the White House, and they're
2:02.6	going to talk about the $15 billion he allocated under the American Rescue Plan for things like
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