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Hi and welcome to the 45th podcast this is Robia Jadri I'm an attorney and

author and I'm here with my co-host Susan Simpson. Hey Susan

hey Susan. Hey Robia so last time we left off with the episode we were talking about the shutdown

which ended approximately 12 hours after we recorded. Yeah sorry about that.

I mean there's mixed feelings Robby what'd you think about that. I mean there's mixed feelings Robbie what do you think about that?

The fact that it ended I mean like no I'm look I'm glad that it ended I think you know it was

detrimental to a lot of people who are you know they need their paychecks they need to go to work they don't want to be furloughed and I'm glad that they came to something I mean shows me that least something's going on but yeah it's all theatrics and it's it's just a big game right now, but it was interesting. So, you know, that was all kind of

It was all about the immigration stuff, right? And remember I said, last week I said,

Trump is suddenly going to just tweet something out to just end the whole debate.

He didn't do exactly that, but he did release a one-page memo on immigration that he's just like,

this is what I want, boom, boom that was the end of that and we'll get

to that later today what do you do what did you think about that the whole shutdown I

think it was probably the best that could have happened for now I mean they're not the Democrats are not going to win

this fight in the shutdown. I think the shutdown wasn't really a strategy from any

side. It was a sort of an artifact of the fact that everyone was either misunderstanding or

misrepresenting other positions. Like okay if Trump and his cronies have been

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