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Once again there could be heroin packs underneath, you know, a bag of bras, I don't know.

From Gimlet, I'm Josh Mccio, and welcome to the pitch.

Cody Candy is in the room today raising 1.5 million for his company, Bounce,

and the conversation takes some weird turns.

Can Cody get things back on track

after the investors start asking about bags of bras

and heroin?

Let's find out. Here's who Cody needs to convince.

Jillian Manus.

Jillian is a partner at Structure Capital where they've invested 98 million so far in high profile startups like Uber.

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