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We're going to be discussing Lacey's autopsy, so trigger warning to all of our listeners, listen to discretion as advised.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Chip Cremetti, retired at PI Profile, a former New York City prosecutor,

a prosecutor, a right producer of CBS's Criminal Minds, a criminal mind's evolution on Paramount's plus. And what to me today is?

I'm Lisa Zabayne, the casting director of CBS's Criminal Minds and for the Audible original series, Blue Beard, and with us today is...

Laura Rich's Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and host of the podcast Crime Analyst. And we are back talking still about Lacey and Connor Peterson,

because there's so much to this case, right? If you're going to do it right. Oh my God, it's overwhelming. It'll just take over your brain and it's just crazy.

Well, because it's a complicated case, because it was actually, you know, covered up fairly well, and unfortunately, it took a while for the bodies to be covered,

for the bodies to be recovered, which then became significant evidence. And there was a very significant development in the case right after that, which was the arrest of Scott Peterson,

and eventually the trial and conviction of Scott Peterson. And today we're going to continue talking about the autopsy report specifically in relation to Lacey Peterson.

Yes, Dr. Brian Peterson performed the autopsy on Lacey as well. And the X-rays were taken prior to his arrival, but he did examine the X-rays.

He was looking for evidence of foreign material, such as bullets, blades, that sort of thing, but he found no evidence that she had been shot or that she had been cut.

That was something that he did look to. So I know there are a lot of people who say that she was dismembered and cut or there was possibly a cesarean section.

There was no evidence of that.

The reason why he can say that, that there was no evidence of cuts, is that many times, unless you are a surgeon, and you know exactly how to separate bone from bone through,

cut by cutting through card lids and so forth, that typically there are little cuts and nicks on the bones themselves.

And that evidence doesn't go away very easily. And so that's usually how a medical examiner determines that someone was either stabbed to death or beaten to death with blunt force trauma or dismembered pre or post mortem.

Those things were not present in this case, on Lacey's body. So that now, of course, a cesarean probably wouldn't involve cutting close to a bone that would leave a nick, but dismembered, certainly would.

So what Dr Peterson said was that the body consisted of a torso, portions of both upper extremities, portions of the lower extremities, but missing with a head and the neck, the forearms and hands, the left lower leg, the tibia, the fibula, and the foot.

And he also listed the organs that were missing as well. Now, the organs that were missing again, I've heard remarked upon multiple times by lots of people that, how do you explain organs that are missing other than trafficking?

That's how it's been couched. And I think there's a very obvious explanation really given that if her body had been in the water, which was a pined between three and six months, while who else lives in the water, the marine environment, the marine life.

We have to think about that. And too often people don't think about what happens over time in an environment where there are predators, sharks, big fish, barracuda, and so on. So first of all, crabs.

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