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Hello, friends. Welcome back to the show. Today I interviewed Claire McKeever-Bergat. We are in the middle of our women leaders in the church series. And this is a great conversation. Claire is a feminist theologian, a creative, contemplative, author, and spiritual leader.

And honestly, like, beautiful.

We talk about embodiment.

And also, Claire is teaching a class in TNI Connect.

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Go to the new evangelicals.com slash connect to join.

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You can get involved with different action things, action items in your local area.

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I hope that you enjoy this conversation.

Talk to you all later on.

See ya.

Well. Well, Claire McKeever-Bergat, it is great to have you on the show.

You wrote a book, In the Beginning, We're the Women.

Wow, that's a subversive title because as a former evangelical, I know what you're riffing off of.

It is good to have you on the show. Thanks for making time. Thank you. Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here. I am so curious about you. I was reading your bio on your website. You're a creative, contemplative. You're an author, spiritual leader, feminist theologian. I've had the pleasure of interviewing a few, but not many feminist deologians,

including Dr. Angela Parker, who I really love. And so I'm just so curious, like, give us your backstory. What got you in this kind of work? Did you grow up, like how I did, conservative,

evangelical? What's, give me all the tea. Yeah. So I grew up, uh, Southern Baptist in Texas. There we go. And I always make sure to say Texas,

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