All right, welcome back to another You've Been Her.

Today we've got Nick Fesco.

And Nick's got some great experience to share with us, why you walked away from an advisory

partner and started trusting your peers

instead, and what has that saved him, and just chances to improve on things fighting shadow IT,

shadow AI. So welcome to the show, Nick. I'd like to give you a moment to introduce yourself and tell us something about you. Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm Nick Fezcoe. I've been leaving the IT team here at DeBoy Chemicals in Cincinnati, Ohio for just about six months now. But I've been in IT for about 25 years across a number of different companies. I won't read my LinkedIn out there, but my hope

in doing this today was just to have a genuine conversation and hopefully somebody out there hears

that and goes, oh, that resonates. That makes sense. There's other folks out there that are,

we're relying on common sense and less theatrics to create an IT career. So I'm hoping that that

resonates with somebody somewhere.

Yeah, it's definitely going to resonate within the community that we've got it. You've been

heard. And for those that are following us and listening in on the podcasts, because I know that

there's a lot of geeks and nerds and intelligent people listening, people who are fighting

some of those challenges. So let's jump into

that one about the shadow AI and how it's just shadow IT with better PR. Tell me a little bit

about what you're thinking there. Yeah, to me it's scary stuff, right? As we've launched

co-pilot here at my company starting in January, the first or the second question you got after is, can I get premium, right?

I want to start building my own agents.

And I like the entrepreneurial aspect to it, but I think the response for all this stuff has to be,

where are the edges, right?

I think to go to entrepreneurial, you could see some data leakage.

You could see the dangers to me abound.

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