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Hello, and welcome to another Saturday episode. I've actually done all of these

like set them to come out in advance. So I'm speaking to you from the past. That must sound annoying. I hate when people do those, like, do

silly voices and things on adverts and if you're driving and it's on the radio so

that'll be the last one today at least from me. This is as I often do on

Saturdays different kinds of things, interviews I do where I'm being interviewed by

different people or just my thoughts for the day or different kinds of weird live

streamy things that are not sort of the big Monday and Thursday podcast but Saturday a bit different and

today I am being interviewed by Will Kingston who is part of the Spectator Australia.

He's got this podcast called Fire at Will.

Obviously the pun on his name being Will

and Fire at Will, this sort of everything's,

you know, go with the questions.

And he has with me what he calls a heretical conversation

with Andrew Gold that's my name of course heresy is defined as opinion

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