Greetings and salutations, welcome back to Sacred Symbols, a PlayStation podcast.

This is episode number 417. My name is Colin Moriartum. I'm joined as always by my son, Chris. Chris, we're both wearing our Bioshock shirts today. Yeah, look at that. Maybe a little bit chilly today. I don't know what a little fan boyish today, perhaps. Maybe. Maybe. Completely on a whim. I i chose to solve a hanger that's kind of cool i like it uh bioshop two lack of representation here yeah if that's if i was gonna say why did i almost call him destined he's been gone for so long i've forgotten his name he's eroding in in my memory. If Dustin was here, we would make him

wear the Bioshock 2 shirt, the questionable Bioshock 2 shirt. Yeah, we would make him change. We'd be like, we're recording in a half hour now. Go procure yourself a Bioshock 2 shirt. Yeah, we have a TaskRabbit coming to your house with a Bioshock 2 shirt. It'll be there in 5 to 10 minutes. task wrap.

I forgot about that.

That that was like a thing.

How's it going, man?

Good to ten minutes. Das crap. I forgot about that. That that was like a thing. How's it going, man? Good to see you. It's going okay. It's a busy week. It's like VidCon's happening now, which the convention itself doesn't really matter. I don't think anybody really goes to it anymore. But everybody knows that it's a thing that

that happens. So now people kind of like, it's like, oh, everybody's going to be in town. Let's set up a meeting. So it's been like, the last couple days has been kind of like, I've been linking up with people. And it's been exhausting. I have another thing to go to tonight in Anaheim, which from Burbank, if anybody knows locally

is quite far. Or it's far enough where it's like, that's a trek. That's a trek. And then tomorrow I have another thing. It's like it's, I'm tired. I'm shot. It's exhausting. You have to rest. My little boy needs his, needs his rest. Dude, I had to

I'm so high energy now

where it's like,

I need, have to rest. My little boy needs his, needs his wrist. Dude, I, I had to, uh, I'm so high

energy now where it's like I needed melatonin. I had to go and buy melatonin. I was like,

I can't, I literally can't sleep without like some kind of drug to help me. I understand. I'm

sorry. Yeah, I don't sleep great myself.

It's, it's important for your mental health, too, and like your brain, you're literally your brain health, not even your mental health, but just like the, yeah, not going nuts. I think. Well, it's nice to see you. Yeah, VidCon, you and I've talked about it on the show in prior episodes, but I went to VidCon, I think, a few times or a couple times, 2012, I think was the first one I went to. And I was very, I was very, what's the word for it? I didn't really take it very seriously when I was going. I didn't really want to do it. It was with the kind of funny guys, like very early in our run to make the company. And it was like they wanted to go when we got these tickets and stuff. But actually, when I went, I found it incredibly inspirational. And I still remember that. Like the idea that it's like, actually, you can do this. And I remember. So I met like some random people. Who is the, he's kind of like, of like I think in the low cow universe now the guy that shot the gun off

Oh,

I met him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At that and then I met the epic meal time guy.

Oh yeah.

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