From Relay FM, this is Connected episode 417.

I'm your host, Federico Vitec, and today's show is brought to you by some truly fine sponsors,

Rogamiba, Indeed, and Texas Pander.

For this episode of Connected and for all the episodes of Connected, it is my pleasure to be

joined by Mr. Stephen Hackett.

Hello, Federico.

Hi, how are you?

I'm good. What about you?

I am doing...

Okay, we'll talk about how I'm doing later in... We'll talk about how I'm doing later in...

We'll talk about that in a few minutes, yes.

Your emotional well-being is tied directly to stage manager.

Let's say that I'm doing.

I'm doing.

And sometimes you just freeze randomly.

I am joined by Mr. Mike Hurley.

Well, hello there. How are you, Mike?

It's been a, I'm good. I'm so excited for the, but today's episode. There's some big topics in here,

and I think mostly I'm just going to get to sit back and enjoy it as you to tell me a bunch of

stuff about some things. So I'm looking forward to that. So let's dive right in. We had a big pro show today. Federico, give people the elevator pitch for

what you talked about on the pro show. What if your phone was not a phone? What is your phone? What

if your phone was like a shovel? And what if the apps on your phone were not apps?

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