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#416 – Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

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Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 7 March 2024

⏱️ 174 minutes

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Yann LeCun is the Chief AI Scientist at Meta, professor at NYU, Turing Award winner, and one of the most influential researchers in the history of AI. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(09:10) - Limits of LLMs
(20:47) - Bilingualism and thinking
(24:39) - Video prediction
(31:59) - JEPA (Joint-Embedding Predictive Architecture)
(35:08) - JEPA vs LLMs
(44:24) - DINO and I-JEPA
(45:44) - V-JEPA
(51:15) - Hierarchical planning
(57:33) - Autoregressive LLMs
(1:12:59) - AI hallucination
(1:18:23) - Reasoning in AI
(1:35:55) - Reinforcement learning
(1:41:02) - Woke AI
(1:50:41) - Open source
(1:54:19) - AI and ideology
(1:56:50) - Marc Andreesen
(2:04:49) - Llama 3
(2:11:13) - AGI
(2:15:41) - AI doomers
(2:31:31) - Joscha Bach
(2:35:44) - Humanoid robots
(2:44:52) - Hope for the future

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Jan Lacun, his third time on this podcast.

0:05.0

He is the chief AI scientist at Meta, professor at NYU,

0:09.6

touring award winner, and one of the seminal figures in the history of artificial intelligence.

0:15.7

He and Meta AI have been big proponents of open sourcing AI development and have been walk in the walk by open sourcing many of their biggest

0:25.5

models including Lama 2 and eventually Lama 3. Also, Jan has been an outspoken critic of those people in the AI community who warn about

0:37.6

the looming danger and existential threat of AGI.

0:42.1

He believes the AGI will be created one day, but it will be good. It will

0:48.1

not escape human control, nor will it dominate and kill all humans.

0:54.5

At this moment of rapid AI development,

0:56.7

this happens to be somewhat a controversial position.

1:01.2

And so it's been fun seeing Yahn get into a lot of intense and fascinating discussions

1:06.4

online as we do in this very conversation.

1:10.7

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1:40.0

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1:41.0

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1:42.0

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1:44.1

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