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#415 – Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

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4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 4 March 2024

⏱️ 208 minutes

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Serhii Plokhy is a Ukrainian historian at Harvard University, director of the Ukrainian Research Institute, and an author of many books on history of Eastern Europe, including his latest book The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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EPISODE LINKS:
Serhii's X: https://x.com/splokhy
Serhii's Website: https://history.fas.harvard.edu/people/serhii-plokhii
Harvard Ukrainian Research Institute: https://huri.harvard.edu/
Serhii's Books: https://amzn.to/3OS2EqK
2006 - The Origins of the Slavic Nations
2010 - Yalta: The Price of Peace
2012 - The Cossack Myth: History and Nationhood in the Age of Empires
2014 - The Last Empire: The Final Days of the Soviet Union
2015 - The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine
2016 - The Man with the Poison Gun: A Cold War Spy Story
2017 - Lost Kingdom: The Quest for Empire and the Making of the Russian Nation
2018 - Chernobyl: History of a Tragedy
2021 - Nuclear Folly: A History of the Cuban Missile Crisis
2021 - The Frontline: Essays on Ukraine's Past and Present
2022 - Atoms and Ashes: A Global History of Nuclear Disaster
2023 - The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History

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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(09:10) - Collapse of the Soviet Union
(25:19) - Origins of Russia and Ukraine
(38:22) - Ukrainian nationalism
(46:04) - Stepan Bandera
(1:15:05) - KGB
(1:30:03) - War in Ukraine
(2:06:19) - NATO and Russia
(2:17:22) - Peace talks
(2:31:09) - Ukrainian Army head Valerii Zaluzhnyi
(2:37:46) - Power and War
(2:48:37) - Holodomor
(2:55:09) - Chernobyl
(3:05:43) - Nuclear power
(3:15:20) - Future of the world

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Sirhi Plohi, a historian at Harvard University

0:05.1

and the director of the Ukrainian Research Institute also at Harvard.

0:09.6

As a historian, he specializes in the history of Eastern Europe with an emphasis on Ukraine.

0:16.5

He wrote a lot of great books on Ukraine and Russia, the Soviet Union, on Slavic peoples

0:22.3

in general across centuries, on Chernobyl and nuclear disasters,

0:26.7

and on the current war in Ukraine, a book titled The Russo-Ukraine War, the Return of History.

0:35.6

And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor.

0:38.3

Check them out in the description.

0:39.8

It is, in fact, the best way to support this podcast.

0:43.2

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nast sweet for business stuff and AG1 for just health.

0:52.4

Choose wisely my friends.

0:53.8

Also, if you want to work with our amazing team

0:57.4

or just get in touch with me,

0:59.0

go to Lex Friedman.com slash contact.

1:01.8

And now, onto the full ad reads.

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As always, no ads in the middle.

1:05.8

I try to make these interesting,

1:06.9

but if you skip them, please still check out the sponsors.

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I enjoy their stuff, maybe you will too.

1:13.0

Now, let's talk about naps.

1:15.0

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