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Real Talk with Zuby

#415 Jay Dyer - Who Really Runs the World? The Epstein Files Decoded

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🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Zuby is joined by Jay Dyer. Jay shares his deep research into the Epstein files, exposing how the operation was far more than a sex trafficking ring that included industrial-scale intelligence, blackmail, and money-laundering. The conversation traces the lineage from Rothschild and Rockefeller banking dynasties to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg, and how Epstein operated as a high-level fixer at that level. They also discuss honey traps as an ancient tool of statecraft, the Vatican connection, Hollywood's century-long relationship with the CIA, and why the public's attention span is the oligarchy's greatest asset.


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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:54) How Jay got into this work

(05:06) Honey traps as ancient statecraft

(08:54) The Rothschild model & advance intelligence

(11:43) What is the Trilateral Commission?

(15:04) Quigley's Tragedy and Hope explained

(18:19) The Rothschilds, Rockefellers & central banking

(21:11) Why were the Epstein files released?

(23:29) The redaction problem

(29:23) What was really inside the files

(33:11) The Zelensky text messages

(37:05) Who did Epstein actually work for?

(41:23) The Vatican connection

(43:02) Why the public lost interest so fast

(52:59) Jean-Luc Brunel & the modeling agency front

(54:14) Whistleblowers & the good actors

(57:26) Henry Kissinger explained

(01:01:04) Defining the oligarchy

(01:04:21) The Good Club & depopulation meetings

(01:05:53) The Eurasian heartland & global power

(01:08:48) Hollywood as the CIA's myth-maker

(01:13:13) James Bond, propaganda & A-listers as spies

(01:15:53) Where to find Jay online


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Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Real Talk with Zubi podcast. On today's episode, we've got on a long-awaited guest. He is an author. He is the host of the Alex Jones Show, and he is a writer for the Sam Hyde Show. And this is the one and only Jay Dyer. Welcome to the show. What's up, Zubi? Great to be here with you. Glad to finally connect.

0:21.2

I know we've been trying to make a chat happen for a few months, maybe a couple years even,

0:25.5

I don't know, but glad to be here with you finally. Jay, I'm sure a lot of my listeners are

0:29.5

familiar with you, but for those who aren't, just give us a little intro. I've been doing

0:34.8

online stuff in terms of alternate media probably for about 15 years, started as a podcaster, and then branched out into writing books and doing a lot of video stuff, live streams, working with Alex Jones for the last six years, and then linked up with a lot of comedians, doing a lot of comedian podcasts and writing for Sam Hyde.

0:54.4

But we do a lot of debates as well.

0:56.1

So I just did a debate last night with a black Hebrew, Israelite cult leader.

1:00.7

I've debated a lot of the top Muslims and atheists.

1:03.3

So we do that as well.

1:05.9

And then do a lot of geopolitical analysis, a lot of deep historical research.

1:10.9

I wrote three books on Hollywood and Hollywood symbolism, so my third book, Esther

1:15.3

Hollywood 3, is out.

1:17.3

So that's how I cover a whole myasm of topics.

1:21.2

And I'm glad to be talking to Epstein with you.

1:24.2

We're definitely going to go deep on the Epstein files because I know that you

1:28.3

have been really looking into that. And it seems like a topic that's kind of gone out of the news

1:33.8

headlines with everything that's going on in the world. But I think it's important that people remain

1:38.8

focused to some degree and we actually find out what's going on here. But before we talk about that,

1:43.6

just one more question.

1:44.8

I'm curious about your background is how did you even get into this whole world of talking about the things you talk about and writing the kind of stuff you write?

1:54.6

Well, I mean, I always loved movies.

1:55.9

So when I was in high school, I wanted to be involved in some capacity in media.

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