414. The Rebirth of the Sacred with John Vervaeke

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 15 January 2024

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in person with Dr. John Vervaeke. They discuss the relationship between your calling and your conscience, the three dimensions of the sacred, how Descartes famous “I think therefore I am” conclusion might be restructured in modern day, what exactly Socrates’s Daemon was, and the bridging of morality and meaning. John Vervaeke is an Associate Professor in Cognitive Psychology and Cognitive Science at the University of Toronto. His work constructs a bridge between science and spirituality in order to understand the experience of meaningfulness and the cultivation of wisdom so as to afford awakening from the meaning crisis. This episode was recorded on January 8th, 2023 - Links - For Dr. John Vervaeke: Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke After Socrates (Series) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOwjmZx12gk&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC The Vervaeke Foundation https://vervaekefoundation.org/ “Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis” (book) https://www.amazon.com/Zombies-Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century/dp/1783743298 "Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow" (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent/dp/1645010821/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1705353143&refinements=p_27%3AJohn+Vervaeke&s=books&sr=1-2&text=John+Vervaeke

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0:00.0	The Hello everybody. I have the pleasure today of talking with my
0:18.8	colleague at the University of Toronto, Dr. John Verveki. We've discussed much, many times on my podcast and in public,
0:29.4	and so it's a continuation of a conversation that's been going on for a very long time.
0:34.0	We concluded today with the proposition that we're both working on the edge of what you might describe as the counter-enlightment,
0:42.0	which I suppose is the endeavor to place what would you say.
0:51.0	Cognitive processes that have gone too astray into the abstract and
0:54.9	representational back on their feet, to rediscover the sacred, to rediscover
0:59.8	what's deep and meaningful, to rectify the meaning crisis as a consequence of that
1:05.0	rediscovery and new discovery and we delve farther into that today.
1:10.0	So welcome aboard. Hopefully it's useful practically and
1:15.5	metaphysically. Happy New Year Dr. Vavaki.
1:19.3	Happy New Year, Jordan. Good to see you. It's good to see you too.
1:23.0	You're looking really good.
1:24.0	Thank you, sir.
1:25.0	I've been worse.
1:27.0	Yeah, yeah.
1:29.0	Well, lots of exciting things on the horizon for this year.
1:32.0	That's for sure, it's going to be a crazy year.
1:33.7	Yeah, very busy for me too. Good. What are you up to? What are you working on intellectually?
1:38.9	A whole bunch of book chapters and papers, presentations, and then also doing preparation.
1:47.6	I go on sabbatical on the 25th and I'm going to film my next big series like on, sorry not, in January 2025 I meant to say
1:57.2	I'm going to go on sabbatical and I'm going to fill my next big series and so I'm doing
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