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Mormon Stories Podcast

414: Josh and Lolly Weed Part 3 - A Discussion of LGBT Issues Within the LDS Church

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2013

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this three part interview with Josh and Lolly Weed we discuss: 1) How they fell in love and decided to marry, in spite of both knowing that Josh is gay, 2) the complexities and risks of navigating a mixed-orientation marriage, and 3) LBGT issues within the LDS church

Transcript

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0:00.0

This interview is a joint production of Mormon Stories podcast and gay Mormon Stories podcast.

0:21.5

To check out the video version of this episode, go to youtube.com slash Mormon Stories.

0:27.2

To keep these podcasts alive, please consider a financial contribution today at mormons Stories.org and gay Mormon Stories.org.

0:35.8

And thanks for listening.

0:39.0

Let's talk church for a second.

0:41.2

Very sensitive and difficult for some.

0:43.7

Maybe, maybe not.

0:47.2

Are you familiar with kind of the statements made about almost sexuality 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago?

0:53.2

President Kimberl, boy K. Packer, Ernest Wilkinson, or, you know, Markey Peterson, that kind of stuff.

1:04.7

Many, you know, it's traditional and elious circles to look at our profits and our apostles as profit seers and revelators, as mouthpieces for God.

1:17.4

And some of the things that have been said in the past are interpreted by many to be kind of awful about gays and lesbians and homosexuality.

1:29.8

How do you guys reconcile that with your beliefs? Do you believe everything that they say? Do you feel like there's some other middle ground?

1:40.5

How do you, how do you look on those past statements?

1:42.8

Also, I'll speak for myself, when I was 14 or so, I was reading the miracle of forgiveness, which in many ways is a good book, but I got to this section on homosexuality, and I literally threw the book across the room.

2:02.2

I had a very visceral reaction to what, at what was said, and I was my first read through and, you know, and I did not.

2:10.8

It really upset me. And I remember, after that, being driven to a violin lesson, I played a violin by my dad, and that's where we would talk about things a lot, is on our way to violin lessons, and I was just like, Dad, I mean, have you read that?

2:34.8

Like, what the heck is, you know, this is a prophet of God, and he said these things, and I can't even remember what specifically was upsetting to me at the time, but his answer to that question was very helpful, and has been helpful for me since then.

2:51.8

He was just like, he is a prophet, you know, he was a prophet, because at the time he was no longer the prophet.

2:57.8

And he is also a human being who lives in a culture, and there is some necessity of deciphering between those two things, and not everything that is uttered by a prophet is prophetic.

3:18.8

And I remember at the time being like, but what? Because it was a very youthful mind. I wanted to be more black and white in my thinking, and so that was hard for me to digest at the time.

3:29.8

But subsequently, I have seen that reality born out, and I tend to subscribe to the notion that I have recently been hearing.

3:41.8

I can't even remember, I think it was in a recent conference where they were talking about kind of the idea of consensus.

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