Hello!

Hello! Ola! You are listening to the Tech Policy Podcast.

I'm your host, Corbyn Knight Barthold.

I love all of my guests, but as regular listeners know, I love Ari Cohn Best.

When he was Tech Freedom's free speech council, he joined me here more than a dozen times.

Then he left me. He moved over to fire, the foundation for individual rights and expression.

And now I cry myself to sleep at night.

Okay, okay, fine.

Not really.

I still see him.

He still comes on the show.

Even better, I can now go talk to him over there. That is what I did recently,

when I appeared on So to Speak, the free speech podcast. That most excellent program, which you

should check out, is hosted by FIRE's executive vice president, Nico Perino.

Ari and I sat down with him at Fires' office in D.C.

We had a great time, and I'm pleased to present our conversation to you as a crossover episode.

We cover a lot of ground.

Ari and I dish on the death of the AI moratorium,

a bogus wrongful death lawsuit against complexity AI,

the FTC's campaign of censorship against ad agencies,

and why you don't hate Europe's Digital Services Act enough. The through line in our

discussion is the burning desire on the part of people who like to control things to control

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