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The Talk Show With John Gruber

414: ‘Annoying Friendliness’, With Joanna Stern

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2024

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about our new best friends, AI chatbots, and I chime in with how the Voight-Kampff test got it all wrong.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I was doing a very important project in the garage.

0:02.9

I feel like I should be giving this exclusive to the Vergecast,

0:06.1

where I have spent many hours.

0:08.7

And in fact, I FaceTimed Nelai from the garage.

0:11.9

But fans of mine and the Vergecast and my interview with Craig Federigi

0:16.3

will know that I've been on a month's long journey to get my garage working

0:22.7

with Siri.

0:25.3

You've got to break it here.

0:28.2

Come on.

0:28.5

And I want to break some news.

0:30.6

I know.

0:30.9

Let me break this news here.

0:33.3

Joanna Stern has finally gotten

0:35.6

her garage to open by saying, and you know what, I'm going to say it here.

0:41.2

So everyone who's listening, if you have this set up, it will do it on your phone.

0:44.8

Hey, Siri, open the garage.

0:49.5

What was the trick?

0:50.7

Can you?

0:51.4

No, now you're opening your garage.

1:03.0

No, it needs my face ID, so it's good. It didn't do it. Good. That's why I use on the podcast, if I can think of it, I called all of the various devices, hey, dingus.

1:27.9

You know, you got me. I watched your, everyone, I want to talk about a couple of your recent videos and columns, but I watched your most recent one where you went on the weekend or was it a weekend? I don't know, but you went on an overnight trip with a bunch of voice assistants. And some of a gun, the home pod in my office set a timer for six minutes or whatever, whatever you were asking for. Oh, I've heard from quite a few people that I've done that. But I wish there was a way,

1:33.0

like, for the systems to know this is not a natural voice in the environment. You should not.

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