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🗓️ 21 May 2025
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Join us for an in-depth conversation with Meredith Nelson and Alicia Fishbein, board-certified patient advocates and seasoned doulas from Intentional Birth. The episode explores the critical role of advocacy in childbirth, covering topics from prenatal visits to labor and NICU challenges. Learn how to navigate hospitals, advocate effectively for clients, and transform traumatic experiences into empowering and supportive births. The discussion includes real-life stories, practical tools, and heartwarming successes, emphasizing the need for stronger advocacy in maternity care.
About Meredith Nelson & Alicia Fishbein
Meredith and Alicia are board-certified patient advocates, seasoned doulas, and the founders of Intentional Birth and of the Perinatal Patient Advocacy Center.
When they attended their original doula trainings, they were taught not to speak up on their clients' behalf. Don't rock the boat. Doulas don't advocate. Smile and nod at care providers. Then they began attending births, and realized that their clients were walking away feeling powerless and traumatized (they were, too). They knew there was a bigger role for them to play.
More than a dozen years later, they are training birth professionals as patient advocates. They teach the confidence-building strategies, the detailed systems for educating and preparing their clients, and the robust set of communication and advocacy tools that they developed as they transformed their practices toward true support of their clients' legal rights and human needs.
Website: intentionalbirth.co
E-mail: [email protected]
Instagram: @intentional.birth
Resources
Intentional Birth: https://www.intentionalbirth.co/
Perinatal Patient Advocacy Center: https://perinatalpatientadvocacy.org/
ACOG Opinion Piece: Refusal of Medically Recommended Treatment During Pregnancy
In This Episode
Advocacy and Patient Rights
The Role of Doulas and Patient Advocates
Training and Empowering Doulas
Understanding Hospital Culture and Hierarchy
Empathy as a Foundational Advocacy Tool
Humanizing the Room: Practical Tools for Doulas
The Importance of Partner Advocacy
Navigating Prenatal Visits and Hospital Advocacy
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Burling Instincts Podcast. |
0:05.0 | I'm Dr. Stewart Fishbein, community-based practicing obstetrician and long-time advocate for birth choices. |
0:10.0 | And I'm Bliss Young, a licensed midwife. |
0:13.0 | Join us in our conversational style podcast where we talk about everything birth. |
0:17.0 | Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry, but we're happy that you're here. So here we go. |
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0:29.5 | Just a regular. |
0:30.6 | I mean, we have a guest today, but just us and we're not popping off to be somewhere |
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0:48.5 | I am. I'm in Kearney, Nebraska, a comfort in parking lot. But other than that, I'm on my way to Colorado. I'll catch everybody up because I wasn't on last week. |
0:56.8 | You talked about a topic that I have a great interest in. |
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