Hi, I'm Stage and Stages Lin Manuel Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamilcast.

Butts and cuts and, and poops and... Hey everyone welcome back to the hamelcast I'm Jillian and this is my second

episode with Rubin J. Carbajal.

Ruben recently made his Broadway debut as John Lawrence and Philip Hamilton,

but not before doing over a thousand performances across the country,

including getting to perform alongside Lin Manuel Miranda in Puerto Rico.

Rubin has been performing in one way or another since he was five years old,

but it wasn't until he did in the Heights for the first time that he felt truly connected to a role.

As he said last week, if not for Heights, he doesn't know if he would have had the drive to keep going in this industry.

That show gave him something to hold on to, knowing that people who look like him can be the main character and have their stories told.

But then Hamilton came along and like so many of us Ruben was a

super fan first and foremost. I have to tell you it was so fun to revisit the

early days of the Hamilton universe. Do you remember that? Like we all kind of

couldn't believe what we were hearing and all we wanted to do was share it with people and tell people about it and we were having listening parties with friends and we were trying to like sneak historical facts into conversation knowing it would lead back to

Hamilton. It was just like no gatekeeping, just excitedly being so

enthusiastic about the whole thing. It was such a clear moment in time and it's

amazing because now Rubin gets to be a part of it.

So last week ended with Rubin having one of the busiest and most important days of his life.

He had a great audition in New York and immediately got a call back for a work session with Tommy and Lack.

He went to a Mets game with Tommy and Lach.

He went to a Mets game to celebrate and even though he didn't see Hamilton,

he ends up on stage after the show with Chris Jackson, Linman-Mol Miranda,

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