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The Jordan Harbinger Show

410: H.R. McMaster | The Fight to Defend the Free World

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Business, Education, Science

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2020

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Lt. General H.R. McMaster (@ltghrmcmaster) was the 26th National Security Advisor and author of Dereliction of Duty and Battlegrounds: The Fight to Defend the Free World.

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/410

What We Discuss with Lt. General H.R. McMaster:
  • The problem with taking a "George Constanza approach" to warfare if we want to resolve conflict instead of just drawing it out longer than it needs to be.
  • Why does the United States keep fighting, as H.R. said on 60 Minutes, "a one-year war 20 times" in Afghanistan?
  • The importance of exercising strategic empathy in order to understand how opposing states think rather than allowing strategic narcissism to convince us that they have the same motivations and think like us.
  • Why immigration is good for the United States and we should be encouraging it as a way to compete instead of discouraging it.
  • If H.R. believes that climate change is one of our greatest threats and challenges, why did he support a US withdrawal from the Paris Accords?
  • And much more...

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Coming up on the Jordan Harbanger Show.

0:03.0

Wars Human.

0:04.0

People fight for the same reasons that

0:05.7

do CIDID needs identify 25 hundred years ago,

0:08.1

fear, honor, and interest.

0:09.8

And so if you're not addressing the drivers of conflict,

0:12.7

you're just treating the symptoms,

0:14.2

and you're going to perpetuate that conflict.

0:15.7

It's going to go on longer than necessary.

0:18.1

It is a contest of wills.

0:19.9

It really requires you convincing your enemy

0:22.9

that your enemy has been defeated.

0:24.9

Welcome to the show.

0:26.9

I'm Jordan Harbanger.

0:28.9

On the Jordan Harbanger Show,

0:29.9

we decode the stories, secrets,

0:30.9

and skills of the world's most fascinating people.

0:33.9

If you're new to this show,

0:34.9

we have in-depth conversations with people

0:36.9

at the top of their game.

0:37.9

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0:38.9

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