410. Discussing Impact Investment and ESG's with a BlackRock Executive | Terrence Keeley

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with investment expert and author Terrence Keeley. They discuss the recent success of the ARC conference, the reality of climate narratives and the ESG mafia, the cost effective solutions to some of our most pressing problems, and the positive side of societal betterment via impact investing. Terrence Keeley is an American investment expert and author who has worked with and managed some of the largest investment organizations in the world. Besides having been an executive at Blackrock, Terrence also founded and served as the Senior Managing Principal of Sovereign Trends, LLC, an advisory firm for and about sovereign institutions. From 1987-2010 he was a senior managing director at UBS Investment Bank, where he oversaw the firm’s transactional and advisory relations with central banks, sovereign wealth funds, ministries of finance, public pension funds, and multilateral organizations, including the IMF and World Bank. Terrence served as a consultant to Pope Francis’ financial reform commission, overseeing the Vatican bank. He is also a founding director of the Financial Hippocratic Oath movement. From 1982-85 he served as one of the first young trustees on the Notre Dame Board. Today he is also a frequent commentator/author on all issues relating to international finance, cross-border capital movements and global financial governance. He is married to Saskia Bory of Geneva, Switzerland. Their two sons attended the Lycée Français de New York. This episode was recorded on October 13th, 2023 - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here - https://jordanbpeterson.com/events For Terrence Keeley: Learn about how to go beyond ESG investing here https://www.1pointsix.com/ Sustainable (Book) Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Sustainable-Moving-Beyond-Impact-Investing/dp/0231206801 Columbia University Press https://cup.columbia.edu/book/sustainable/9780231206808

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0:00.0	The Hello everyone. Today I have the privilege of talking to Mr.
0:19.1	Terence Keeley. Terry was a speaker at the recent Art conference in London in the business stream.
0:24.9	He's an expert on so-called ESG investing, of which he is quite skeptical, perhaps the world's
0:30.7	most foremost skepticic all things considered.
0:33.7	We talked about the idea of ethical investing
0:36.4	exactly what that means, the perils, pitfalls,
0:39.0	and promises of pursuing so-called ethical investing strategies,
0:44.0	investment strategies, we talked about the necessity of
0:47.8	formulating a positive vision for the future, financial and otherwise,
0:51.2	and delved into the details of the 2008 financial crisis
0:56.0	and the role played in that by the blindness, willful and otherwise of people who
1:00.8	were responsible for managing the world's money.
1:04.0	Welcome to the discussion.
1:06.4	So Terry, let's start this out with, I'd like to ask you some questions
1:10.4	about your experience at Arc.
1:11.7	Maybe you could tell everybody watching and listening
1:14.4	what you experienced there and what the consequences for you generally were
1:20.0	with regard to the conference as a whole before we turn our attention to the specific topics that you addressed in the panel that you participated in in London.
1:29.0	Well, as you remember, Jordan, we met just this summer at Heather Higgins home,
1:33.1	and we ended up having a very interesting conversation on the role of
1:36.2	business and finance in fashioning a better world.
1:39.5	And you kindly extended an invitation to me to be part of an ESG panel, but what I didn't realize in accepting that invitation was that I was going to be in the company of 1,500 wonderful people from how many, 60 countries, I can't remember.
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