#41 Tobi Lütke: The Trust Battery
The Knowledge Project
Shane Parrish
4.7 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 18 September 2018
⏱️ 106 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Things going wrong is not actually this rare thing, but it's actually something that's not an ordinary thing that just does not cure every day. |
| 0:18.0 | Hello and welcome. I'm Shane Parish and this is the Knowledge Project, a podcast exploring the ideas, methods and mental models that help you learn from the best of what other people have already figured out. |
| 0:30.0 | To learn more about the show, access show notes or see previous guests go to fs.blog slash podcast. |
| 0:37.0 | My guest today is Toby Lutke, co-founder and CEO of Shopify, the marquee shopping cart system of the e-commerce industry. |
| 0:46.0 | Like me, Toby's based in Ottawa, Canada and while we had a lot of mutual friends, we had never met in person before recording this interview. |
| 0:54.0 | As you'll soon discover, Toby's incredibly well thought out on a wide range of subjects. |
| 0:59.0 | This in-depth conversation covers a lot of ground, everything from growing and scaling Shopify to the trust battery and other useful mental models. |
| 1:08.0 | Heck, we even talk about playing video games and how that helped prepare him to run one of the largest technology companies in the world. |
| 1:15.0 | I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. |
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| 2:09.0 | Toby, welcome to the show. |
| 2:11.0 | Thanks for the much for having me. |
| 2:13.0 | I thought we'd start with video games. I've been reading your Twitter feed and it seems like you have some strong opinions on video games, not only from why it's unfair to see them as a waste of time, but right up in to how they helped you run and scale an organization like Shopify. |
| 2:29.0 | Let's unpack this. Can you expand on these thoughts? |
| 2:32.0 | That's a funny because I'm pretty open about just playing video games a lot. I play video games with my kids. |
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