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The Rest Is Politics

41. Question Time: Classified documents, Eddie Jones, and A-levels

The Rest Is Politics

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News, Politics, Government

4.5 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Just how easy is it to waltz out of office with classified government documents? In the latest episode of TRIP QT, Alastair and Rory take your questions on Trump's FBI raid, Gordon Brown and Gillian Duffy, scuffles, Eddie Jones, A-levels, and more. Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Blackpool tickets - Saturday 8th October: wintergardensblackpool.co.uk/events/the-rest-is-politics-live/ Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: restispolitics@gmail.com Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everybody again, welcome to another edition of the Restless Politics Question Time

0:12.1

with me, Alistair Campbell and with me, Rory Stewart.

0:15.3

And we've got quite a lot of questions for you about Trump and the FBI.

0:20.5

James Dixon wants to know whether it would be possible to walk south of a UK government

0:26.8

building with classified documents.

0:28.9

And of course, the answer is yes, very easy, and often people will take a lot of work

0:36.9

home.

0:37.9

Very good.

0:38.9

You probably remember Angus Lapsley at the foreign office and he was a terrific civil

0:44.5

servant with Tony Blair's government in number 10 and he got into all sorts of trouble

0:49.8

recently because he left some, I think it was in a bus stop without other people leaving

0:54.0

him on trains.

0:56.8

And you remember Oliver Letwing got in trouble because he had put them in the bin in St

1:01.6

James's park.

1:02.6

He was on the habit of walking around St James's park looking at them.

1:05.1

But the thing about ministers though, ministers don't really get trained in the management

1:08.7

of papers.

1:09.7

There's an assumption that they know what to do.

1:11.2

No, so ministers don't get trained and as you say, even civil servants who are highly trained

1:15.1

can make mistakes.

1:16.3

So just to explain to people what happens is you get an enormous amount of documents on

1:20.4

your desk of different sorts, some aren't restricted, which is not a very secret, right

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