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The Talk Show With John Gruber

409: ‘The Dynamic Paradox’, With Nilay Patel

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2024

⏱️ 163 minutes

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Summary

Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16.

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0:00.0

I don't know how many years in a row now you've been graciously appearing on this show

0:04.8

sometime shortly after the iPhone event and there are reviews and everything and this year you

0:12.3

kindly reached out but we had the dilemma, like what do we do about the Apple

0:17.1

Intelligence stuff, which I went ahead and reviewed and per verge, review totally reasonable guidelines you reviewed what's in the box.

0:25.8

Yeah and then after I published my review and gave my full thoughts on Apple Intelligence as it exists today.

0:36.0

Then a week ago in the developer beta now it's in public beta but in 18.1 I was like

0:42.0

oh to hell with it just come on the show.

0:43.4

Right?

0:46.4

Yeah, I mean, I read what you wrote and your take seems to be, there's nothing here worth talking

0:52.2

about yet.

0:53.3

And I have played with this stuff.

0:55.8

I mean, it's not Voldemort, like we can go look at it.

0:58.5

That's, the rule isn't so hard and fast.

1:00.7

It's just, we won't tell people whether to buy something based on

1:04.6

unshipping software which I think is reasonable and I agree with you I think right

1:08.4

now the features that are coming are on the whole, like not a lot, right?

1:15.0

It's like summaries and some writing tool.

1:16.7

It's stuff people have played with in apps, basically,

1:19.2

but now in the operating system.

1:20.9

And for me, it often, sometimes I come up with ideas and the idea sticks and I'm like oh that's pretty good and then all the way through writing a review I get it. I came up with my lead angle to compare adding a dedicated hardware button for the

1:37.5

camera to the old green yellow hardware buttons for phones that the iPhone never

1:42.4

had and a strong idea loosely held I was like who

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