Hello, it's a Saturday episode today and so things are a little bit different.

As you know Monday and Thursday I do my hard-hitting big culture war episodes and a Saturday sometimes I just chat and sometimes I get

interviews I've done with other people because a lot of youtubers don't

necessarily have audio podcasts so when they interview me for their shows, which

many have been doing recently as I've done a bit of an online tour about the psychology of

secrets, my book, my adventures with Cults and Influences, which by the

way the moment has about 99% five-star reviews on Amazon, which is pretty cool.

Please do add to that if you've read it Amazon dot code at UK that is and psychology of secrets

so this is one I really enjoyed doing and I'm not just saying that it's actually a lot of fun

I think you'll you'll agree once you've listened to it and it was on the vintage

Reed show so go and check that out on YouTube if you if you get to YouTube and this is

Shauna in Australia who is interviewing me we cover everything from the Royals and Piers Morgan to

baby reindeer the idea of obsessive fans, cult, scintology and deception and

there's a bit of an insight into my life and my personality and all those things

that Shauna has a great way of really getting to the person, getting to the personal as well.

So yeah, as I say, go follow her on the vintage read show and please do get hold of that book.

There'll be a link in the description and I'll see you at the end.

Hi and thanks for joining me for more to the story. Today's special guest is Andrew Gold,

creator of the Herritics YouTube channel

and also the author of a fabulous new book called The Psychology of Secrets.

Hi Andrew, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for having me.

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